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“The JustPod is a podcast of the American Bar Association’s Criminal Justice Section, hosted by Justin Danilewitz and Geonard Butler. This episode features a discussion with Josh Hoe [Leading with Conviction™ 2021], Senior Policy Manager at Dream.org.
“Josh is the host and creator of the Decarceration Nation Podcast. Josh, who is himself formerly incarcerated, is the author of Writing Your Own Best Story: Addiction + Living Hope. We connected to discuss Josh’s recent writing, in which he argues that the so-called ‘National Emergency on Crime’ is not real, and why we should reject it.”
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Walk into every room like you belong there, and keep hustling to create your next opportunity.
Josh also appeared recently on the “Amplified Voices” podcast produced by the Restorative Action Foundation: “Amber and Jason chat with Joshua Hoe about incarceration, reentry and renewal. During the course of the conversation we get a front-row seat to accountability, reentry built on constraints: registry rules that make simple walks risky, five-hour weekday windows on parole, and landlords who rarely open doors. Josh turns that maze into a practice of workarounds—writing web content with a word processor offline, uploading from monitored terminals, and negotiating permissions with persistence. The throughline is strategy: learn the unwritten rules, solve for the next step, and document every decision. That mindset carries him from a volunteer seat to national reform tables, where sharp questions at conferences and targeted online campaigns open unexpected doors.
“Then comes the inflection point: consulting on criminal justice reform during the First Step Act push, pressing forward to help others, realizing injustice even when it isn’t his own, watching a U.S. senator read language he helped craft on the Senate floor. It’s a reminder that power can start from a shared kitchen in a halfway house if paired with understanding, connection, discipline and an eye for moments that matter. His closing advice is simple and invitational: walk into every room like you belong there, and keep hustling to create your next opportunity.”
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